Cockpit Counsel

Legal Operations and Innovation with Curt McDaniel from Ferring Pharmaceuticals

Curt McDaniel is Chief Legal Officer and Board Secretary at Ferring Pharmaceuticals. In this episode of Cockpit Counsel, we'll delve into insights gained from his journey — from sixteen years at Eli Lilly to his time as a fiction writer and beyond.

Curt and Tim discuss the importance of distinguishing high-risk and complex matters from lower-risk and complexity issues, why leveraging technology for the latter is a valuable investment, and more thoughts on legal operations and innovation. 

Key takeaways 

  • Driving innovation as a legal leader 
  • The importance of data and legal tech 
  • Thoughts on authenticity as an in-house professional 
  • And more! 

Tune in to learn about legal ops, legal tech, and much more. Watch today!


  • 01:22: Curt’s Career Journey
  • 05:41: Legal Operations and Team Profile
  • 07:11: Implementing Change in Legal Operations
  • 08:45: Focus on Data and Business Results
  • 10:35: Managing Outside Counsel and Legal Costs
  • 12:22: Standardizing Legal Agreements
  • 15:33: Legal Tech Journey
  • 20:20: Factors Leading to Adoption of Legal Tech
  • 22:55: Predictions and Advice for Legal Tech
  • 24:24: Building Cross-Functional Relationships


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Tim ParillaChief Legal Officer, LinkSquares
Curt McDanielChief Legal Officer and Board Secretary, Ferring Pharmaceuticals